Does dubbing TV harm language learning?

As anyone who’s attended my “pet hates” English corner will know, I’m not a fan of dubbed TV and films. As an example of a pet hate it works well – it’s accepted by society at large, but annoys me on an almost visceral level, and I’m eager to recruit others to the cause. The reasons I give are:

1. When lip-movements and speech don’t match the film will always look ridiculous, especially when the languages have different speeds.
2. A film is a piece of art and replacing the voices of the actors is an insult to everyone involved
3. The translation will always be mangled in order to match lip movements
4. Countries that use subtitles for English-language TV have a better standard of spoken English than countries that dub everything.

The last point here is a nice final flourish for a classroom full of people who are trying to improve their proficiency in the language, but to be perfectly honest it’s nothing more than a guess, based mainly on the experience of meeting Scandinavians with untutored near-native English, but also on travel to France and Italy where (despite the huge amount of tourists there) I’ve found the opposite.

Last year the international English-training school EF produced a study called the “English Proficiency Index” – a survey which “benchmarks English proficiency across 54 countries using a sample of just under 2 million people.” (The full report can be downloaded from the website here) Looking through the figures, I thought it would be a good chance to see whether my hunch was correct. Would countries which dubbed TV have worse English, or would my idea turn out to be based on a couple of outliers?

For comparison I went to the Wikipedia article about dubbing – one of the messiest, most poorly-written articles on the site, but one which has a useful map of the different forms of dubbing used in different countries. Some countries only dub children’s cartoons, some dub most TV (either in their own language or one they can understand) and then there’s Russia, where they don’t bother dubbing at all, instead having a single actor reading the script in a monotone over the soundtrack.* Europe was the area best-covered by both the study and the map, so I focused on this area for now.

The EPI has a score out of 100 which is divided into levels of proficiency – from Very High Proficiency to Very Low Proficiency. Most countries in Europe have scores above 55, and the majority have a High Proficiency ranking or above, but there’s still a substantive variation

Here’s the comparison of the study and the map. I think it speaks for itself.

EPI vs dubbing

EPI vs Dubbing Chart

There seems to be a definite correlation, then – though of course we can’t conclude that this is definitely the case, it at least looks more likely. The two countries which don’t fit into my idea are Portugal, which surprises me as I met people there with much better English than in Spain, and Poland – which is surprisingly high up the chart considering they use the dreaded voiceover method. On the whole, though, I think I’ll be able to express my idea with more confidence now.

*It astonishes me that an entire nation could put up with this, but there are lots of surprising things about Russia.

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Things In China: Beijing Zoo

Things In China: Beijing Zoo

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Last Night A DJ Killed My Dog Podcast #30 – Year Of The Snake

Snake

This year’s Chinese zodiac mix is about snakes.
It’s two months late. Sorry, been busy.

Here is the link, you can right-click to download. Or go here to see it on libsyn in all its crappy broken html-frame glory.

Tracks:

1 – The All Seeing I – Snake I [Edit]
2 – Test-Icicles – Boa vs Python
3 – Tiny Tim – The Viper
4 – Glen Velez – Snake Eyes
5 – Captain Beefheart – Black Snake Moan II (1972 Radio)
6 – Mogwai – Glasgow Mega-Snake
7 – Her Space Holiday – Snakecharmer
8 – Sterling Holloway – Trust In Me (The Python’s Song)
9 – Ford & Lopatin & Shannon Funchess – Snakes
10 – Sufjan Stevens – Year of the Snake
11 – Ivor Cutler – Sleepy Old Snake
12 – Liliput – Feels Like Snakes Twisting Through The Fog
13 – David Arnold – Mongoose vs. Snake
14 – Underworld – Shudder / King of Snake (live)

Plus the usual collection of speech clips, see how many you can spot.
Next year we’ll be looking at horses. Suggestions about songs or bits of dialog are welcome.

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The Commute and The Queue

Man on train in Beijing

Being a typical 21st century family man in Beijing, I spend around 10-15 hours of each week commuting to the centre of town. This, all-in-all, is ok. It’s not like a couple of years ago when I used to use the subway during the rush hour. I filmed a typical day’s travel back then, and despite a few other lines opening it’s still pretty much the same now. Nobody seemed terribly impressed by this video when I first put it up, but it still looks like something I never want to do again, especially on a daily basis.

(Some notes for this video – the first minute shows people attempting to get on at each stop – after two stations the train is full and all the commuters are left on the platform. So if you live between Shuangqiao and Gaobeidian good luck getting to work in the morning! Then there’s the twenty-minute slow walk between platforms at the interchange and the scramble to get on the next train. Finally we have the great mass of people fighting to get on / off at Jianguomen, where it typically took the arrival of five trains to get your way to the front if you arrived at 6pm.)

These days I’m fortunate in that I don’t need to travel at rush hour, and that there’s a bus that goes the whole way – a fairly nice one where I can sit down, listen to music and podcasts, and generally have a more relaxing time than I have either at home or work.

When I started taking the bus, the problem was the queue. Chinese people, as has been noted a great deal elsewhere, don’t queue, and the scrum at the door of the #669 every evening did nothing to dispel this idea. As an English person I have an ingrained conviction that queueing is the cornerstone of civilization, and taking part in a fight every day in order to get home, well, my faith in China was starting to be shaken. That was until I discovered the secret – some bus stops have a clearly demarcated fence and somebody to police it. Take a look at this little beauty -

Bus Queue in Beijing

A straight line, no branching out in different directions, nobody making a second queue next to the first one – we could almost be in England. Then there’s this one – a hundred yards long and still in perfect order.

Queue at Guomao

The best variation, one which I haven’t taken a photo of as I’m generally standing in it, is the queue for the #807. Two queues, in fact; one for people who want a seat, and one for those who don’t mind standing. When the bus arrives the first queue files on, then when the seats start to run out the first queue stops and the second starts. It’s more organised than anything I’ve seen even in the most well-mannered parts of the UK, and (as stupid as this may sound) it’s gone some way to restoring my optimism about China.

Except when a lazy bus driver opens both doors and the scrum re-appears. But let’s not mention that.

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Chinese Map Of Europe

If you know what this is, then you know what this is.
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Please leave your complaints in the comments box.

Chinese Map Of Europe

Previously; “China, translated”

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Things in China: Never Forget

Things in China: Never Forget

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Qingming festival 2012

It’s Qingming (“Tomb-Sweeping”) festival today, but it’s my day off anyway and miserable weather outside, so little to report. Last year, though, we went down to Hubei to visit V’s ancestral hometowns, tend to tombs, etc, and it was quite fun.

Here’s the video I filmed at the time. Watch it if you are for whatever reason interested in 12 minutes of my home videos or possibly if you’re an ethnographer studying the area.

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